{"id":1168,"date":"2019-01-25T20:44:16","date_gmt":"2019-01-25T20:44:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/?p=1168"},"modified":"2021-02-23T23:15:14","modified_gmt":"2021-02-23T23:15:14","slug":"is-science-biased-toward-natural-environments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/2019\/01\/25\/is-science-biased-toward-natural-environments\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Science Biased Toward Natural Environments?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>by<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/home\/\">Robert T. Lackey<img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1177\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/2019\/01\/25\/is-science-biased-toward-natural-environments\/blog-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/osu-wams-blogs-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs.dir\/2961\/files\/2019\/01\/Blog-Logo.png?fit=960%2C945&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"960,945\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Blog-Logo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/osu-wams-blogs-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs.dir\/2961\/files\/2019\/01\/Blog-Logo.png?fit=300%2C295&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/osu-wams-blogs-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs.dir\/2961\/files\/2019\/01\/Blog-Logo.png?fit=770%2C758&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright wp-image-1177\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/files\/2019\/01\/Blog-Logo.png?resize=122%2C120\" alt=\"\" width=\"122\" height=\"120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/osu-wams-blogs-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs.dir\/2961\/files\/2019\/01\/Blog-Logo.png?w=960&amp;ssl=1 960w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/osu-wams-blogs-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs.dir\/2961\/files\/2019\/01\/Blog-Logo.png?resize=300%2C295&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/osu-wams-blogs-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs.dir\/2961\/files\/2019\/01\/Blog-Logo.png?resize=768%2C756&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 122px) 100vw, 122px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In science, when you see the words \u201cnatural,\u201d \u201chealthy,\u201d \u201cdegraded,\u201d and \u201cbiological integrity,\u201d\u00a0 all these terms, and many others, have <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/files\/2017\/07\/8.-Societal-Values-and-the-Proper-Role-of-Restoration-Ecologists.pdf\">embedded assumptions<\/a> about what someone or some organization regards as a desirable value choice, a preferred policy choice.<\/p>\n<p>These and similar words have no place in <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/files\/2017\/07\/Keep-Science-and-Scientists-Credible.pdf\">science<\/a>.\u00a0 They are classic examples of <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/files\/2017\/07\/2004c-Normative-Science-Reprint-Lackey.pdf\">normative science<\/a>.\u00a0 Their use in scientific publications is simply <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Policy_advocacy\">policy advocacy<\/a> disguised as science.<\/p>\n<p>The words are fine for management, expected in policy advocacy, but not OK in science.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a test:\u00a0 first, put on your <em>science<\/em> hat.\u00a0 Now imagine that the public owns a 5,000-acre stand of old-growth (never logged) forest which is being considered by a <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/files\/2017\/07\/2006f-Axioms-of-Ecological-Policy-Reprint-Lackey.pdf\">government agency<\/a> for an alternative use.\u00a0 Scientifically, is it preferable to (1) preserve this landscape as is, <em>or<\/em> (2) remove the trees and build a wind farm?<\/p>\n<p>Neither ecological state is preferable <em>scientifically<\/em>!\u00a0 \u00a0At least not without assuming, perhaps unwittingly, a policy preference, a value choice.\u00a0 If the science relevant to this policy question is presented in such a way to <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/files\/2017\/07\/2014x-Is-Science-Biased-SETAC-Keynote-Lackey-Nov-12-2014.pdf\">subtly favor<\/a> either policy option, it is a classic example of normative science.<\/p>\n<p>It may look like a scientific statement.\u00a0 It may sound like a scientific statement.\u00a0 It is often presented by people who we assume to be operating as scientists. \u00a0\u00a0But, such statements in science are nothing more than \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/files\/2017\/07\/21.-Defending-Reality.pdf\">policy advocacy masquerading as science<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Anyone following basic scientific principles should say:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <span style=\"color: #800000\"><em>\u201cPristine ecosystems are neither superior, nor inferior, to human-altered ones.\u00a0 Different, for sure, but not better or worse.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Let me wrap up by offering Charles Darwin\u2019s advice to scientists.\u00a0 Remember that he was under a lot of social pressure to make his scientific findings conform to the dominant political and theological views of the time.\u00a0 He offered pithy guidance to scientists:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 <span style=\"color: #800000\"><em>\u201cA scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, a mere heart of stone.\u201c<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Strict, uncompromising, and unequivocal advice, but spot-on for scientists both then and now.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><strong><span style=\"color: #339966\">***************<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Robert T. Lackey In science, when you see the words \u201cnatural,\u201d \u201chealthy,\u201d \u201cdegraded,\u201d and \u201cbiological integrity,\u201d\u00a0 all these terms, and many others, have embedded assumptions about what someone or some organization regards as a desirable value choice, a preferred policy choice. These and similar words have no place in science.\u00a0 They are classic examples&hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/2019\/01\/25\/is-science-biased-toward-natural-environments\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4014,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1237562],"tags":[150863,140586,1237561,1324,716983,205490,150862,150858,2794,150861],"class_list":["post-1168","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ecological-policy","tag-biological-integrity","tag-conservation","tag-conservation-biology","tag-ecology","tag-ecosystem-health","tag-environmental-management","tag-environmental-protection","tag-environnmental-science","tag-natural-resources","tag-restoration-ecology"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p94BFg-iQ","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1190,"url":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/lackey\/2019\/02\/12\/does-the-public-expect-too-much-from-science\/","url_meta":{"origin":1168,"position":0},"title":"Does the Public Expect Too Much from Science?","author":"Robert Lackey","date":"February 12, 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"by Robert T. 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