{"id":256,"date":"2009-11-20T17:13:25","date_gmt":"2009-11-21T00:13:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.glencora.org\/?p=256"},"modified":"2009-11-20T17:13:25","modified_gmt":"2009-11-21T00:13:25","slug":"postdoc-after-postdoc-after-postdoc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/2009\/11\/20\/postdoc-after-postdoc-after-postdoc\/","title":{"rendered":"Postdoc after postdoc after postdoc?"},"content":{"rendered":"

There’s talk of postdocking* in the air – for one, Jonathan Katz\u00a0posted<\/a> about how to better match recent grads to postdoc positions.\u00a0It looks like this year’s academic-job market is even worse than last and that postdocs might just fill in the gap for a year or two for some people – including those that are currently postdocking. \u00a0Hearing such things make me cringe, but not because I think postdocs shouldn’t exist. \u00a0I am very thankful for my 20 months spent as a postdoc. \u00a0I don’t think I became a stronger job applicant in that time, but I do think that I became more confident in that time.<\/p>\n

In the agonizing months** between interview and job offer at Oregon State University, I gave a lot of thought to “what do I do if I don’t get an academic job?” \u00a0I had the option of staying on as a postdoc through summer 2010 – an option that made me cringe. \u00a0“If I stay as a postdoc and next year’s market is terrible and then take another postdoc … where does the cycle end?”<\/p>\n

I have many friends in the biosciences where two 3+ year postdocs is the norm. \u00a0One has started a blog devoted to advocacy for postdocs; a recent post<\/a> encourages the cycle of postdocing to end. \u00a0I worry that CS could “get worse” and end up like bio. \u00a0I hope that the competition offered by industry will help keep the postdocking length down. \u00a0But Ph.D. enrollment is going up – where are these students supposed to go? \u00a0Does anyone know if there are stats on the average postdoc length in computer science?<\/p>\n

* I officially propose postdocking as the verbal of postdoc much like trafficking to traffic.
\n** Days became months due to budget hoop-jumping.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

There’s talk of postdocking* in the air – for one, Jonathan Katz\u00a0posted about how to better match recent grads to postdoc positions.\u00a0It looks like this year’s academic-job market is even worse than last and that postdocs might just fill in the gap for a year or two for some people – including those that are […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3747,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[106179,106190],"class_list":["post-256","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-postdoc","tag-tcs"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/256","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3747"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=256"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/256\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=256"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=256"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/glencora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=256"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}